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*Aq215 Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While I do agree with this, I can't help but feel the same way about torture, murder etc; Which is more easily condoned. People can live through multiple stab wounds or even getting parts chopped off and then they deal with the PTSD for life. Plus, a lot of american media has brutal violence and torture that is seen as 'cool' or 'funny' and how would the victims feel if they stumbled across it or knew someone who was entertained by the type of violence that they went through? Any kind of sex is more 'taboo' here so I find it extremely hard to find rape scenes, dark media about rape unless I try hard to look for it. I'm not saying I don't think rape is horrible, but that I care about all victims and find it sad how we should censor one thing for one victim and not for another. ):
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:iconsorrysales:
i have a problem with a bit of your point, if you don't mind. while torture and murder and such is more prevalent in culture- openly- i don't really think it's hard at all to find rape scenes or dark media about rape 'unless you look for it'. you'll honestly see a rape scene in a movie used for cheap drama very often, or to explain why a character is mentally ill- which is a terrible message- as well as in books. Kite Runner, which is a book we actually had to read for school not even a month ago- mandatory reading- had two or three rape/molestation scenes in it (with children, no less.)
i don't disagree with your actual point at all, but i do have to say that while you can be tortured or stabbed or have limbs amputated, i don't think that would be as dehumanizing or violating as being raped. you won't have people shame you or say it's your fault or you were just asking for it to happen. i'm fairly sure if you went to the police with a murder or physical (stabbing, torture, etc) charge you also wouldn't be mocked or blamed or not taken seriously/accused you're lying. it's a shame people laugh at murder or violence but considering you can be open about being stabbed in an alleyway but not open about being raped in one, why is censorship for that any different? it seems unfair.
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*Aq215 Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree that rape is horrible, and the fact that some people don't take it seriously and blame others is the reason I think why I think it is taboo for others to know about it.

However, the reaction does depend on the person.

I personally know a victim of sexual assault, and it screwed them up for life. Even then, they were thankful that this happened to them instead of them being violently assaulted, like losing a limb.

It's also false that victims of murder and violent attacks never get blamed, they get blamed all the time, just maybe not to the same level. It's because we live in a blame game society, and a ass-kissing one toward the criminal. When someone is killed, stabbed to death etc; People always wonder what the victim did to offset the criminal, what mental illness did the criminal have? Mental illnesses and broken homes are always blamed on the behavior of a murderer/violent attacker. I've never heard a case where it was not.

I'm not saying that rape is in any way lesser than torture or that I don't understand what rape victims go through. My main point is that it's dangerous to make an assumption on somebody's feelings. Someone could be stabbed to near death and very well may think their attack is much worse than sexual assault; they could have been severely hemophobic beforehand or suffered a different case. To have the belief that rape is worse, may make them feel like their trauma is not as valuable at all. The belief that rape is worse can also be offensive to some rape victims. Some people do recover from rape and move on (I'm not saying this is the case for everyone) and to make it seem that rape makes you forever broken is offensive to them; it's basically telling them they are better off dead now. It also makes it impossible for anyone to recover from rape if we constantly make rape seem super horrible to this extent that we're pushing victims back down into the dark place of reminding them that they're broken. I'm not saying you think this way, but it's the belief I picked up from certain commenters that made me make this comment. I do think it's great that more people are caring about rape victims, realizing it's wrong to blame them, and wanting to help, but by caring about rape to such a high level where we're assuming how -all- victims must feel really hurts more people than it helps.

That was more my point, I would defend any victim since I don't know their story, or their feelings. I don't agree with rape jokes myself, I don't make them or like them because I find them offensive and in bad taste ):
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:iconsorrysales:
well, okay. i think you may have a bit of a double standard- 'i know a victim of sexual assault and it screwed them up for life' vs. 'making it seem like you're forever broken is offensive and terrible'
i mean i never said any of that at all. all people deal with it differently. using the word broken forever etc is really shit even in a hypothetical sense.
but alright, i'm glad that you're such an advocate
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*Aq215 Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I didn't mean to make it sound like I implied you thought that way, but that is usually the response you see in a lot of people to the response to rape jokes and fictional rape VS torture jokes and fictional brutal violence by many others (One is okay and not the other because one crime is considered lesser to them). So I was explaining what inspired my comment.

As for the person I know, I did not mean to imply that she was broken forever, but I was describing her experience, how it took decades for her to even get to the point she is at now, and even now she still has triggers and flashbacks. She herself described it as almost impossible to recover from- but even then would still prefer her assault over being stabbed to death. So that's what I mean by learning different victims' points of views. [:
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~socksyy Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a very good point, thank you for your input!
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*Aq215 Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem! :heart:
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~darkblaze15 Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
So many sickos out there who think it's funny and hot but it isn't. It's a crime.
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~socksyy Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THANK YOU. Rape is a terrible crime, and joking about it is just a terrible thing to do.
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~darkblaze15 Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome.
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